= Agenda = * Can we get a list of what needs doing, and the priority of each item, before release? We're probably not likely to get *all* of the bugs fixed before release. - Hobbsee = Member candidates = * [[imbrandon]] ( Brandon Holtsclaw ) * "kwwii" ( Kenneth Wimer ) = Meeting Log = Meeting log can be read there : [[http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2006-05-22.html|first part]], [[http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2006-05-23.html|second part]]. = Summary = First, Riddell asked each one to just tell who (s)he is. {{{ === Riddell jonathan riddell === Lure is Luka Renko === allee Achim Bohnet === Hobbsee is Sarah Hobbs, she thinks... === kwwii is Kenneth Wimer === m-onkey Carlos Diener === toma is Tom Albers === comm[A|n] der is Robert Mueller === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === `6og Karl Goetz (usually) === OculusAquilae is Bastian Holst === imbrandon is Brandon Holtsclaw === nixternal is Richard Johnson 11:06 klichota klichota is Krzysztof Lichota === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === kmon Javier monteagudo, just a reader === linuxmonkey is Terry Jacob (at least I think I am) }}} Because of Hobbsee's ''sleeping state'', she asks to report her agenda point for later. == Members == === Brandon Holtsclaw - imbrandon === * He mentions his Wiki page : [[imbrandon]] for presentation * crimson mentions that imbrandon has been ''taking an active role in universe-fixing for 6.06'' * imbrandon mentions that bddebian uploaded a lot for him * Hobbsee mentions imbrandon fixing kvirc and having been working with him in -motu fixing dh_iconcache * Answering Riddell, imbrandon mentions he's been around #kubuntu-devel for 3 months * imbrandon mentions his presence mostly on IRC in -motu and #kubuntu, for ''general help, like install problems and setting up restricted formats for people'', ''sudo understanding and such'', and that he spends ''about 6 hours a day on average'' on #kubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic * Riddell mentions the fact that imbrandon is no op for the moment and that it'll be fixed * Red-Sox mentions that imbrandon ''helps out a lot for us newbies'' in #kubuntu-offtopic * On Riddell's question ''will you be able to help us with the RC and final release at all?'', imbrandon aggrees: ''yes (...) i'm here for the long haul'' * Hobbsee mentions how hard it is to answer to people on #kubuntu, because of very high ''ratio of newbies to people who know what they're talking about'' and mentions that ''imbrandon tends to be one of the few people that helps around'' * Tonio_ mentions that ''he also did a quite interesting bunch of patches'' * Lure: ''I think we need more people to help newbies in irc and forums - thsi is where Kubuntu is lacking'' (+25 from Hobbsee) * Answering a few questions about involvment in Edgy, imbrandon: ''i plan on being very active in edgy and kde4'' and can definitively be put on Riddell's ''list of people to throw packaging problems at''. * ''i plan on concentrating on kde ( qt4 patches ) but i also lkike to look on malone and help where i can while ideling on irc heling new people'' * imbrandon did '''sign the Code of Conduct''' (question from toma) ==== Votes ==== * Riddell: ''well I've not heard much involvement from imbrandon before but what I'm hearing here is good and the testimonials are all positive so I think a +1 from me'' * ''Hobbsee is debating saying yes, or asking for more contributions before membership...'' * Hobbsee: ''+1 from the stuff i see in -motu - i'd like to see you in #k-devel though :)'' * allee: ''many others supported him. +1 from me too.'' * Tonio_: ''+1 for me although I wasn't here at the beginning'' * toma: ''+1 for me'' {{{ 11:25 Riddell seems like +1s all around 11:25 Riddell thanks for taking the grilling imbrandon and congratulations on being the first kubuntu-member }}} === Kenneth Wimer - kwwii === * kwwii, presenting himself (he had no Wiki page at that moment): * ''well, I am kenneth wimer, been around linux for a long while'' * ''worked for another major linux company for 7 years doing all the graphics'' * ''kde member, kde-hci member, kde-artists ring-master or such'' * ''since about a 6-8 months using kubuntu'' * ''in the meantime, a ubuntu-art member'' * ''did lots of stuff for dapper'' * ''learning deb packaging recently'' * Riddell: ''well I know kwwii pretty well, I don't have any questions (...) he did all the dapper artwork for kubuntu'' * Riddell mentions that ''kwwii is contracted by canonical at the moment'' * To toma's question about being working on kde stuff as well, kwwii answers: "I am part of the oxygen team'' * At that moment, kwwii had '''NOT signed the Code of Conduct''' (question from toma) * He even had no wiki page (first question from Hobbsee, Tonio_ then precises its importance), but he mentions his blog : http://kwwii.blogspot.com * Riddell: ''he won't get into the kubuntu-members team without signing the conduct'' ==== Votes ==== * Hobbsee: ''+1 based on the artwork contributions - looking forward to seeing what happens in edgy'' * Tonio_: ''+1 based of artwork contribution, work done for the linux tag (...)'' * Riddell: ''+1 from me for kubuntu artwork, top linuxtag help and oxygen goodness'' * toma: ''+1 for me, although a wiki page describing yourself is badly missing'' * allee: ''kwwii: then +1 of course!!'' {{{ 11:37 Riddell +1s all round again, congatulations kwwii }}} === Tom Albers - toma === He has been added during the meeting (not present on agenda): {{{ 11:37 Riddell anyone else here for membership? 11:38 toma Riddell: maybe i should be there? }}} * Riddell mentions that ''toma is our KDE link on the committee'' * toma, presenting himself : * ''well, I'm working on RSIBreak, i was working on digiKam'' * ''i was a dutch translator before that'' * Tonio_ mentions that toma works on codeine * Answering Tonio_, toma mentions he worked on media:/ library and tried to implement it in codeine (upstream implemented it differently) * toma then mentioned : * ''next to that, i did some packaging on alioth (debian). learning from allee * ''and code kde-nl member core'' * Answering to Riddell asking what makes him interested in Kubuntu: "i think linux should be easier for the users and i'm seeing kubuntu making a good efford doing so, so i want to help in that area and focuessed on KDE'' * allee mentions toma's upstream work on kipi-plugins * Answering Riddell, toma mentions that he attended all kde meetings in Netherlands and no other one. * toma: ''yes, i can not say I have done a lot for kubuntu untill now, but I will be more active, you have to know that the council is a bit of a surprise for me.'' * Riddell: ''toma: I'm not asking for more kubuntu involvement, as I say we value you for the upstream involvement'' * Answering to Hobbsee, toma confirms that he '''has signed the Code of Conduct'' ==== Votes ==== * Riddell: ''toma get a +1 from me for bringing KDE knowledge to kubuntu council, but I think we'd expect more kubuntu contribution for most members so I understand if others vote the other way'' * ''Hobbsee would like to wait, and see more contributions, but is then happy to approve both membership and kcc status'' * Tonio_: ''+1 for me, based on the future and the specific case of toma (cc member before beeing a member)'' * allee: ''I trust/know toma. +1'' {{{ 11:51 Riddell toma is in the positive then, congratulations and welcome to kubuntu membership }}} == Next point: Figuring out where the work has to be done - Hobbsee == Agenda point is following : * Can we get a list of what needs doing, and the priority of each item, before release? We're probably not likely to get *all* of the bugs fixed before release. - Hobbsee Riddell: * Repositories * Main is already frozen, all uploads should be mentioned on DapperReleaseRadar or approved by mdz. * Universe is excepted to remain open until next tuesday. * Bugfixing * In Universe, bugfixes should be fine * In Main, important bugfixes where it's obvious they won't break other things should be fine too but need aproval first. === Testing === ==== Wiki pages ==== Riddell asked for a Kubuntu version of [[Testing/Short]]. imbrandon took it and Odyx proposed to re-read it. imbrandon will have to make [[Testing/CurrentKubuntu]] for Release Candidate too if possible. ==== Release Candidate ==== Tonight's ''nightly build'' will be the first Release Candidate, please start testing from tomorrow morning (european time). Results should be reported to [[Testing/CurrentKubuntu]]. Big priority is to test Ubiquity, which should be able to do ''anything partman can do''. and has smiliar possibilities as the text installer. * `6og mentions that ntfs issues have been solved recently, so everyone should be sure to get recent CDs (daily images) * imbrandon mentions that it is possible to test with VmWare. ==== Other major bugs ==== * OdyX mentions that konqueror/kaffeine/kmplayer still crashes from time to time on several pages * Tonio_ mentions ''graphical'' postint scripts (java packages, postfix) in Adept. * allee mentions wiki.konqueror.org continuously asking to accept certificate. This seems both a lack in certificate and a konqueror bug (toma confirms). * klichota mentions that kdesktop crashes with live CD in QEMU. == Else == * linuxmonkey mentions RestrictedFormats that needs to be adapted to Kubuntu. OdyX takes it. * toma and Hobbsee congratulate Riddell for his newsletter. Riddell indeed mentions the possible suggestions on KubuntuNewsletter. * Short discussion about RAM size needed for live. It seems 128 MiB is just fine, a bit slow but fine. == Next meeting == Next meeting is planned on 6th June at 21UTC.